Curse

Symbiont · May 23, 2008, 06:34 AM // 06:34

This build will defeat your Doppleganger in Hard Mode in under a minute, guaranteed.

Water Magic: 16
Domination Magic: 12
Energy Storage: All leftover points in here

Weapon(s): Any staff with an "Enchantments last 20% longer" mod will be fine, but not necessary.

Armor: Max of course (60 AL) and any runes and insignia of your choice, it doesn't really matter, but a few Blessed Insignia could help reduce damage (if any).

Skills: Mist form, Empathy

Usage: As soon as the battle begins cast Mist Form, followed by Empathy, and watch on as your doppleganger commits suicide, remember not to attack otherwise you will also be affected by empathy, just stand there and cast your skills again whenever they're recharged.

*Note: I'd just like to clarify that I came up with this build myself, although I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't the first person to think of it but by no means does that mean I copied or stole it from another source, so if it is already out there somewhere on the internet then that has nothing to do with me, and I didn't seem to find it on these forums so I though I would share it.

GaaaaaH · May 23, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

would sliver armor speed up the process (even at 3 earth)? considering that you do not attack.

Improvavel · May 23, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

U might as well be a E/N and use [[price of failure] and [[insidious parasite]

Symbiont · May 23, 2008, 07:00 AM // 07:00

This is just what I used, but of course Silver Armor and anything else like it can be used too, the sky is the limit for variations I guess, but you can't get easier than only having to use 2 skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Improvavel

U might as well be a E/N and use [[price of failure] and [[insidious parasite]

If any E/N characters want to try that then sure, but I've always been E/Me.

Perhaps the thread can be changed to include all E/? builds that work for this mission in HM.

Spider Pig · May 23, 2008, 07:41 AM // 07:41

You can also take [[pain inverter], he won't use it against you.

Luminarus · May 23, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Do you "hit" with mist form up? Even if you do, wouldnt empathy do the same amount of damage?

EDIT: Spider, he does 0 damage due to mist form... PI would result in nothing but a wasted 10 energy.

Akaraxle · May 23, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Back then (2005) I just Maelstrom'd him and proceeded to Ice Spear spam him to death. Doesn't it still work?

DarkGanni · May 23, 2008, 09:04 AM // 09:04

[Glyph of sacrifice] before triggering cutscene followed by a [meteor shower] next [rodgort's invocation] and [liquid flame] and finish off with an [immolate] and he should be dead

GaaaaaH · May 23, 2008, 09:08 AM // 09:08

there was some aoe change on doppelganger, so it might not.

frandrew1026 · May 23, 2008, 10:04 AM // 10:04

E/Me eh? Use Blinding Flash and Empathy. He should go down in no time.

Symbiont · May 23, 2008, 01:58 PM // 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Do you "hit" with mist form up? Even if you do, wouldnt empathy do the same amount of damage?

EDIT: Spider, he does 0 damage due to mist form... PI would result in nothing but a wasted 10 energy.

If by hit you mean attack, then no, just stand there and maintain spells. If you didn't mean that, then I'm not quite sure what you're asking

Damian979 · May 23, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

X/me: backfire and any 4-5 self buff spells that you won't be casting anyway

Tyla · May 23, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

All attunement skills, Mark of Rodgort and MS, Flare.

PEWPEW

And Backfire + random skills should do it easier.

angmar_nite · May 24, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Blinding flash, dual attunement, empathy.

Keyser Soze · May 25, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

i found it easy just to use [thunderclap] and a shocking bow, he couldn't do anything for 20 secs, and died. that was with 16 air, 12 Marksmanship

acerbity · May 25, 2008, 10:32 AM // 10:32

Just used the green farmer build. Should be even easier now with the buff to Shadow Form.

oracle.delphi · May 27, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

or you could equip mantras backfire and empathy.. use backfire and empathy..ala wiki i believe
also works on primary mesmer
takes like 20 secs they use all the mantras cause the dopple is DUMB and backfire nails em on each one then they hit u activating empathy..if they are still alive

The forth fly · May 27, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

use the old 6 second troll farming build i did the dopple in 8 seconds in HM

the ruloes · May 27, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Did this as a Mo/Me, although I only used the mesmer secondary, so meh:

[signet of midnight] [empathy] [clumsiness] [wandering eye] [signet of clumsiness]

12 domination and 12 illusion.

Might bring along [glyph of lesser energy], seeing as you're an elementalist, and energy can get tough on that bar.

Shyft the Pyro · May 28, 2008, 12:39 AM // 00:39

I used /R for the good old trick - spirits. He still casts all equipped spirits in HM, so my level 5 pet crab got itself a nicely cooked meal, due to Mark of TROGDOR + Mind Blast